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	<title>Comments on: MPower Open keeps moving forward</title>
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		<title>By: Bookmarks about News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bookmarks about News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 08:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - bookmarked by 2 members originally found by mgtrack15 on 2008-10-29  MPower Open keeps moving forward  http://www.zenofnptech.org/2008/07/mpower-open-keeps-moving-forward.html - bookmarked by 4 members [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; bookmarked by 2 members originally found by mgtrack15 on 2008-10-29  MPower Open keeps moving forward  <a href="http://www.zenofnptech.org/2008/07/mpower-open-keeps-moving-forward.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.zenofnptech.org/2008/07/mpower-open-keeps-moving-forward.html</a> &#8211; bookmarked by 4 members [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alfred Nutile</title>
		<link>http://zenofnptech.org/2008/07/mpower-open-keeps-moving-forward.html/comment-page-1#comment-5798</link>
		<dc:creator>Alfred Nutile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wondering if you have seen www.civicrm.org

It runs on a linux server (which I do not think this MPower does?

CiviCRM has a great forum for community.

And since it ties into Drupal or Joomla you get a complete frontend / backend system.
??
Thanks for a great site!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wondering if you have seen <a href="http://www.civicrm.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.civicrm.org</a></p>
<p>It runs on a linux server (which I do not think this MPower does?</p>
<p>CiviCRM has a great forum for community.</p>
<p>And since it ties into Drupal or Joomla you get a complete frontend / backend system.<br />
??<br />
Thanks for a great site!!</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Edmondson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Edmondson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am tempted to install Windows just to see what this CRM is like. It would make me feel dirty but I guess it might be worth it since you recommend it so much.  This would be the first step I guess to making something better that was sustainable for NGO&#039;s.  Thanks again for the post you bad blogger. ; &gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am tempted to install Windows just to see what this CRM is like. It would make me feel dirty but I guess it might be worth it since you recommend it so much.  This would be the first step I guess to making something better that was sustainable for NGO&#8217;s.  Thanks again for the post you bad blogger. ; &gt;</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I certainly worry about that dynamic with company-led open source software. The &quot;open source&quot; ends up just being a buzzword label they can use, but has no meaning, if they don&#039;t foster the community around the software. 

But there are successful counter examples. So we&#039;ll see what happens. 

MPower has the additional hurdle that their software is written in .NET, and requires Windows. There is a smaller community to draw from in terms of interest in being involved in open source projects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I certainly worry about that dynamic with company-led open source software. The &#8220;open source&#8221; ends up just being a buzzword label they can use, but has no meaning, if they don&#8217;t foster the community around the software. </p>
<p>But there are successful counter examples. So we&#8217;ll see what happens. </p>
<p>MPower has the additional hurdle that their software is written in .NET, and requires Windows. There is a smaller community to draw from in terms of interest in being involved in open source projects.</p>
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		<title>By: David Geilhufe</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Geilhufe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a fascinating catch-22 about the MPower case:

(1) It is very hard to build a community of users/developers because of the dominant rather than nurturing role of the MPower company in the community... MPower is likely competing for the same customers that might inspire a developer or consultant to get involved with the platform.
(2) The customers, as a general rule, check to the open source or open API box on their RFP and then hire the vendor to do the implementation.... they just don&#039;t have the technical chops to really dive deep into the software. 

So in the end, MPower has little incentive to be a neutral &quot;nurturer&quot; of an ecology (becuase it can&#039;t grow as fast) and the community has little incentive to participate since there isn&#039;t a neutral nurturer.

At the same time, it really doesn&#039;t make a lot of difference to the customer that was going to hire Mpower anyway. The customer only hits a down side if Mpower does a poor job as a vendor and there is no alternative vendor to switch too since the ecology is small.

It will be interesting to watch things develop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a fascinating catch-22 about the MPower case:</p>
<p>(1) It is very hard to build a community of users/developers because of the dominant rather than nurturing role of the MPower company in the community&#8230; MPower is likely competing for the same customers that might inspire a developer or consultant to get involved with the platform.<br />
(2) The customers, as a general rule, check to the open source or open API box on their RFP and then hire the vendor to do the implementation&#8230;. they just don&#8217;t have the technical chops to really dive deep into the software. </p>
<p>So in the end, MPower has little incentive to be a neutral &#8220;nurturer&#8221; of an ecology (becuase it can&#8217;t grow as fast) and the community has little incentive to participate since there isn&#8217;t a neutral nurturer.</p>
<p>At the same time, it really doesn&#8217;t make a lot of difference to the customer that was going to hire Mpower anyway. The customer only hits a down side if Mpower does a poor job as a vendor and there is no alternative vendor to switch too since the ecology is small.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to watch things develop.</p>
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